Palomar Knot Vs. Toit Knot [New Strength Test]
- By: Luke Simonds
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This knot test put two of the strongest snug knots I’ve tested head-to-head to see which one truly holds up better: the Palomar vs. the TOIT knot.
Each test was run back-to-back under the same conditions so we could clearly see which knot failed first and at what point.
Half of the tests were cinched dry and half were cinched using saliva, allowing us to see how wet vs. dry cinching actually affects knot strength and the results were not what most anglers would expect.
Here’s the video:
Featured Gear
- Mono: Ande 20 lb
- Fluoro: Seaguar 20 lb
- Scissors: Fish Strong Scissors
Conclusion
For the fluorocarbon tests, the Palomar Knot outperformed the Toit Knot… that being said, the Toit Knot is still a very good knot for use on fluorocarbon lines.
For the monofilament line tests, the results were very close, with the Palomar Knot having a slight advantage.
But given how much easier the Toit Knot is for tying to anything bigger than a bare hook or swivel, I’m going to be using that when in need of a maximum-strength knot for that connection.
Personal Note: I’m almost always using a much stronger leader line compared to my braid mainline, so I’m still going to continue using the Orvis Knot for my mono to hook/swivel connections because it’s super fast to tie while still being stronger than a loop knot and/or my braid knot.
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I am 84 years old and my fingers and eyes don’t work like they once did. I find it hard to hold and see the many loops required for the toot knot.
another excellent comparison Luke. Thanks for your expertise.
I use the polar knot for the most part but I may try the other out once I get back Ocklawaha the water …. Great information and video on this subject Luke ……. !
I have used the palomar knot for years and love it. I only use it on setups where I use clips to change out lures often. All of my direct tied lures us a loop knot.
Always appreciate these knot & line tests! Thanks so much! I’m loving the toit and you’ve saved me a lot of money with your fluoro vs. mono testing!
Appreciate the testing! Thank you for taking the time to test and quantify things.
Have you ever tested the D.O.A. lure loop knot? Very easy knot. I have used it for years and have had very good luck with it.
I find that the Palomar Knot to be easy and quick to tie.
Knots interest me,so I really appreciate your time and effort or us.palomar is my favorite,but I’m going to give the toit a workout
Can you use the Palomar or Toit knot to attach mono to braid?
I don’t recommend the palomar knot for braid because it didn’t perform very well on my testing of it with braid a while back.
The Toit should be good… I’ll be sure to test it against the braid uni knot for snug knots with braid (twice through eye and then 10 uni coils).