How to Tie the Orvis Knot [Including Strength Test Results]

By: Luke Simonds on February 19, 2018
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The ‘Orvis Knot’ has been one of my personal favorite knots over the past 20+ years for connecting a leader line to a hook and/or swivel.

I like it because it’s a very easy knot to tie, it’s very small, and it has a shockingly high breaking strength.

This is a knot that I learned many years ago and I just assumed that it’s primary benefit was simply how easy and quick this knot is to tie.

But after doing a lot of structured knot strength experiments, I have been shocked at how strong is relative to many other popular knots (strength details below).

How to Tie the Orvis Knot

The Orvis knot can be tied following these super easy steps. They are shown below in a list, and there is a video below that will help you see exactly how it is all done.

5 Steps To Tie The Orvis Knot

  1. Thread tag end through eye of lure/hook
  2. Twist tag end behind mainline to form a loop
  3. Thread tag end through the loop you just formed (which forms another loop)
  4. Thread tag end through this 2nd loop two times
  5. Pull the knot tight

Here’s a quick video showing how to tie the Orvis Knot. As you’ll see, it leaves its tag end pointed away from the rod so it’s the most weedless of the knots used in this contest.

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Conclusion

When you use leaders with a higher breaking strength than the main line, the knots used to connect leaders to a hook, swivel, or lure do not necessarily have to be the absolute strongest knot for that particular type of connection.

You just need one that is stronger than the breaking strength of the connection to your lighter mainline.

Be sure to consider it’s ease of tying along with its ability to not snag onto weeds or floating debris because a small piece of debris that gets caught on the tag end can completely ruin your chance of getting strikes.

Leave a comment below if you have any questions about the Orvis Knot.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
12 days ago

If you tie the Orvis knot correctly, before you snip the tag end- if you pull on the tag end, will the knot loosen?

Anonymous
Anonymous
9 days ago
Reply to  Luke Simonds

Well that is good to hear. I’ve tied it so many times I thought I could only do it wrong. Thank you for answering. I appreciate it very much.

John Martin
10 months ago

I have mastered these two knots loop knot Orvis note . But FG still hit1 outa 4 tries , paddle tale baits are catching all the fish on my Lovesick Northern Lake in the Kawartha, 2 hours from home in Toronto Canada. Have catch a 38” musky on a 4” dark paddle tale plastic lure, so far walleye, sunfish crappie large mouth and small mouth Bass and rock bass. One lure caught 6 fish before I changed it out. They are called Rhythm Wave from China, www. Jackall lures.com.
They make my Temple Fork rod pulse . Using Owner Twist Lock 1/4 ounce hocks. They go deep ,in weeds ,on top of weeds. .
Winter fishing in Englewood hope to be a hit for this 3.8” paddle tales just sail through cut grass most of the time. In 2 to 20’ of water. I just does care for Z Man plastic ,just too hard to get on the screw twist lock
Best Regards alway Luke
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Robert E. Rankl
Robert E. Rankl
1 year ago

I love the Orvis Knot because it is so easy to tie. Since I will be using braided line at times I have practiced tying this knot just by doubling the line, and it is just as easy as tying with the single line. The rule is to double the line? Instead of running through the eye of the hook twice I double the line. Any problems with this idea?

Robert E. Rankl
Robert E. Rankl
1 year ago
Reply to  Luke Simonds

Thank you very, very much for your reply. And thanks for doing the strength tests. Your braid-uni knot will be the go-to knot for attaching hooks, swivels, and such to my braided line from now on. Awesome!!! 😁

Ralph Connell
Ralph Connell
1 year ago

Helpful indeed….I’ve been stuck on the Uni knot….I’m trying other things Palomar for line to hook seems good. This is quick…how is it on light line 10lb?

Brian Sherwood
Brian Sherwood
1 year ago

Another very strong braid knot is to double it over and tie a uni, clinch, or jam knot with the double line. Extremely strong!

John kimble
John kimble
1 year ago

Just curious how a Snell, easy Snell, or knotless knot fares… I’m usually fishing line heavier than my target but like the way the line comes off the hook with these knots.

Dave Frymier
2 years ago

When you are fishing for “toothy critters” the Orvis knot works well on the multi-strand nylon coated wire. I first learned it trout fishing with 6X and 5X leaders – amazing how well it translates to the larger lines and wire. The Davy knot is much, much weaker. It was developed for trout fishing matches where the trout are mostly small and it was much more important to get a fly back in the water than spending time tying strong knots.

Princess Warner
Princess Warner
1 year ago
Reply to  Dave Frymier

I have often caught tuna over 150lbs on the Davy knot without any failures. 100lb Blackwater fluro, 100lb braid, Talica 25 just landed a super cow weighing in at 331lbs. The Davy knot was perfect, the braid/fluro knot was the Tony Peña, which I use if I have used up my wind-ons.

Warner Foster
2 years ago

Subject change
Luke, for bottom fishing have been tying the following line to hook or swivel knot for years, it had never failed me. Normally use 60 to 80 fluorocarbon leader. It may have a name but I don’t know what it is.
Run the line through the hook eye twice, rap the tag end around the main line five times. run the tag end through the two loops at the eye of the hook. Wet line and pull tight. Trim tag about 3/8″ from knot. What is your opinion, does it have a name?

Josh
Josh
1 year ago
Reply to  Luke Simonds

Luke I can see how you may have gotten this confused, but I believe Warner is actuallty describing the Triline knot.

The clinch knot does not involve running the line through the eye twice, whereas the Triline knot does. Also, the clinch knot does not involve passing the line through two loops at the eye of the hook (because there is only one loop at the eye in the clinch knot) whereas once again, the Triline knot does. https://www.netknots.com/fishing_knots/trilene-knot.com

Josh
Josh
1 year ago
Reply to  Warner Foster

Hello Warner,
Contrary to What Luke Simonds said, I believe the knot you are describing is actually the Triline knot, which is a very strong and well tested knot.

The clinch knot does not involve running the line through the eye twice, whereas the Triline knot does. Also, the clinch knot does not involve passing the line through two loops at the eye of the hook (because there is only one loop at the eye in the clinch knot) whereas once again, the Triline knot does.

Does the knot you are describing look anything like this?https://www.netknots.com/fishing_knots/trilene-knot.com

Josh
Josh
1 year ago
Reply to  Warner Foster

Contrary to What Luke Simonds said, I believe the knot you are describing is actually the Triline knot, which is a very strong and well tested knot.

The clinch knot does not involve running the line through the eye twice, whereas the Triline knot does. Also, the clinch knot does not involve passing the line through two loops at the eye of the hook (because there is only one loop at the eye in the clinch knot) whereas once again, the Triline knot does.
Here is a link to the triline knot, does your knot look anything like this? https://www.netknots.com/fishing_knots/trilene-knot.com

Warner Foster
2 years ago

Luke, very good demonstration.

Steve Wheeldon
2 years ago

Does this affect the performance on a lure being so tight to the connector without a loop?

Anonymous
Anonymous
2 years ago

I would consider for leader to swivel but leader to hook the snell a better knot for me. I usallaly use Palomar for leader to swivel

Anonymous
Anonymous
2 years ago

Has anyone tried an Orvis to Orvis to join braid and fluoro leader? I’ve tied it, but haven’t tried on the water yet…

Steve Fuller
Steve Fuller
2 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Didn’t mean for that to post as anonymous- this is Steve

Dave Frymier
2 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

I think you really need to use a “hangman” style knot (clinch, blood, double Uni, FG) with braid because it’s so darn slippery. Other types of knots pull out on the braid side.

Jeff
Jeff
3 years ago

Can the double Davy knot (my personal favorite) or the orvis knot be used for braided line? Also, I modified the double Davy knot in that I go thru the book eye twice before tying the double Davy knot.

Gordon Davies
Gordon Davies
7 days ago
Reply to  Jeff

Yes it can. I also use it for tying titanium wire. As you tighten it the top loop does not close entirely so I tuck the tag end through it. I can then leave the tag end longer as it is covered by the shirt length of shrink tube I use to protect the knot.

Micky Franklin
3 years ago

With LIVE bait, I find the circle 8 knot to work the best. it allows the live bait to swim and look natural your thoughts?

Dmytro
Dmytro
3 years ago

Have you ever seen this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH90OfZXb3k

I’ve just seen it in the suggested videos section on youtube and decided to give it a try. Well, it’s a very interesting knot to say the least. Not sure as for the thinner lines (I’ll likely still prefer the DD or Orvis there), but for the thicker lines (starting 0.25 mm and especially for 0.5+ mm) it has a serious advantage: the line comes out of the knot aligned almost in line with the axis of the lure. With the DD and Orvis it comes out of the knot at a considerable angle which may (have yet to be tested) spoil the animation of hard lures like jerk minnows.

The disadvantage is that the tag end comes in the direction of the reel, making the knot a weed-catching one. An additional half-hitch above the knot will probably help to solve that problem, though.

I don’t know the name of this knot. If anyone knows it, please share your experience.

Dmytro
Dmytro
3 years ago
Reply to  Dmytro

(one thing worth of translation in that vid: the two-wraps knot is for 15+ lb fluoro, the three-wraps version is for under 15 lb)

Steve Spencer
3 years ago

Have you guys tested the Worlds Fair knot? Easy to tie, tag points at lure and is reported to be 100% strength. Also being used for drop shot applications

Dmytro
Dmytro
3 years ago
Reply to  Steve Spencer

I’ve just tried it and found it to be nowhere near the Orvis knot in strength. Was using an approx. 0.2-0.25mm nylon line connecting with a duo-lock snap made of 0.5mm diameter wire, and broke the World Fair knot pretty easily with my bare hands (and that several times), while the Orvis knot, as well as my favorite Double Davy I can’t break without cutting my hands.

Keith
5 years ago

I’ll stay with the snell knot