Best Fishing Knot for Braided Line [Braid to Leader Contest]

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Last updated on: April 1, 2017

best fishing knot for braided line

Of all the many variables involved with landing the biggest fish of the day, the fishing knots we tie are the only ones we have absolutely 100% control over, so it’s on us to make time to learn the best fishing knot for all of the needed connections.

To help the Salt Strong community always feel confident in knots while pursuing the biggest, baddest, and saltiest fish in the sea, we decided to start this head-to-head tournament style contest where the most popular knots are put against each other so that we can determine which knot is truly the best-of-the-best for those of us who use braided line fishing line.

We specified this analysis towards braided line because it is the best option for inshore anglers who need to make long casts while still having the strength needed to bring in the big ones.

So let’s dive in to the results of this testing of the best fishing knot for braided line when tying directly to a fluorcarbon leader.

Braid to Leader Knot Contest

Of all the knot connections, this is by far the most important to master because it will almost always be the weakest link in your system due to the fact that you’re using the lightest/thinnest line possible (light braid) to maximize casting range while beefing up the leader material to be able to handle the line shearing jaws of the biggest, baddest, and saltiest of predators you come across out on the water.

Here are the knots that we used in this analysis:

FG Knot – The Winner of the Contest

The ‘FG Knot’ completely surprised me. When seeing that the leader line didn’t even bend back as all other knots do, I thought that it wouldn’t stand a chance at even being considered for this contest. However, my feelings about it quickly changed after tying it for the first time and watching it beat my most trusted and dependable knot (which was until then undefeated). Considering how small it is along with how easy it is to tie (if using a trick I just found), this is a must-know knot for anyone who uses braided line.

Here’s a video showing the shortcut method to tie this awesome knot:

Improved Albright Knot

The ‘Improved Albright’ knot is very popular on the online forums. I found that it was easy to learn and tie, which likely explains its popularity. In testing different variations of it, I received the best results when using a full 15+ twists and having the main line and tag end on the same side of the leader loop (see 2:32 mark in video below).

Slim Beauty Knot

The ‘slim beauty knot’ was lower on my list for line to line knots. The fact that you have to thread the braid through two very small holes in the leader’s tightened granny knot makes this one very tough to tie in low light conditions, and the strength of it was not quite as high as the others as well. That being said, I found that the strongest way to tie it was in doing 8 wraps up the main line, and then only 4 in the second round going back over the first towards the connection (compared to the 7 and 7 combo that most people seem to use).

Given its performance and relative difficulty to tie, I recommend not using this one so did not include a how-to video.

Double-Double Uni Knot

The ‘double uni knot’ is a common knot that many people trust for their line to line connections. Basically, the double simply signifies that you’re tying a uni knot twice… one at the end of the main line, and another at the end of your leader. In testing with braid to fluoro connections, I found that tying the braid side with a doubled over line increases it strength… which is why I’m refering to this version as the “double-double uni knot”. The video below shows how to tie them both, and it even shows what happens when you test their strengths against one another… spoiler alert – the double-double wins every time!

CONCLUSION

As you see in the diagram below, the FG knot won handily with an average break strength of 20 to 23 lbs… extremely impressive given that the weak line in the connection was only rated at 10 lbs. Needless to say, the FG Knot is a MUST-KNOW for anglers who use braided line.

Knots for Braid to Fluorocarbon Line

 This diagram shows the head to head matches that took place as part of this analysis. The test consisted on 3 rounds… 3rd round was the winning knot tied against itself to test its strength. The red values below the names of the knots represents the amount of pull strength that the knots where able to withstand in each round. Lines used were 10 lb PowerPro braid and 30 lb Ande Fluorocarbon.

This knot testing is continuous… we’re always seeking out better styles/methods, and we’ll of course update this page as new/better knots come to light.

If you have a great line-to-line knot that is not included here, please leave a comment below about it. We’ll include it in our testing and let you know how it compares to the others.

 

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Check out the post linked below which shows the rankings of the best knots of all time.

Best Fishing Knots Of All Time (Ranked Strongest To Weakest)

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Charles Kendrick
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Outstanding video for all knots! I will change to f
FG knot Evonne though I have had no failures with double uni.

Louise Eastty
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Dear Luke,
The fg knot is the only knot I’ve used since I started fishing 2 years ago. I’ve not had a problem. I recently downsized my braid to 10lb power pro and have applied to a 20lb fluorocarbon leader on one of my reels. I didn’t realize the braid was slick. After landing an over slot fat red the braid and leader came undone. I’m thinking the slick braid is the issue. Or is it the 10/20 combo? What are your thoughts? Thank You…..Louise

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Did you double the braid when tying the slim beauty knot? Doubling the braid to leader connection makes all the difference in the slim beauty strength. I have been using this knot for years and I have never had the line break at the knot unless tied improperly.

Tom
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Tom

Excellent article. I am a newb to using braided line with mono and the double uni I’ve been using wasn’t reliable.

I have seen several references to unraveling – I wonder if using a drop of Crazy Glue or other glue on the half-hitches would mitigate the risk of this. Thoughts?

Steve Corpstein
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Steve Corpstein

Excellant video and explanation. Thank you, I like this better than the Alberto or Albright. Easier to get good results.

Randy Edwards, Ph.D. (Marine and Fishery Science)
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Randy Edwards, Ph.D. (Marine and Fishery Science)

This like every knot comparison I have seen is scientifically lacking. The main issue is that none of the comparisons that I have seen have looked at the rate of loading or impulse. By that I mean that some knots may test out with a very high percentage of breaking strength if the load (i.e. pull on the knot) is very slow and continuously increasing, whereas that same knot might have a very low percentage of breaking strength if the load/pull is sudden — as is often the case when a fish hits hard on a relatively short line.

For example, the Palomar knot is highly rated by some in terms of efficiency or percentage of breaking strength of the line. However, I had personal experience where the Palomar was continuing to break upon hard strikes (yellowfin tuna in the 100# class on relatively short lines while live bait fishing. A sportswriter was tying the hooks to 100# mono leader with a Palomar knot that he raved about as being soo reliable for his redfishing inshore, had to be relieved of rigging duty, and the excellent captain had to go back to tying the hooks to the leader with a snell knot and stopped the break-offs.

Someone needs to redo all these internet tests more scientifically with regard to how the force is applied to the knot, and with regard to the lines tied together (relative breaking strength, and type (mono, pe braid, fluoro, etc.).

Only then will fishermen have information that they can rely upon.

weswolf
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weswolf

you are talking about a whole nother scenario there! the “line to hook” knot is a whole another beast than these tests you are watching. these “line to line” knots are for joining one “line to another line” not to hook. as for the line to hook the “excellent captain” was right to snell the hook that is the most trusted tried and true line to hook knot there is. what you should be complaining about or asking for is an online test for “line to hook” knots.

Randy E. Edwards, Ph.D.
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Randy E. Edwards, Ph.D.

I mentioned the Palomar versus snell simply as an example of how knots do not perform equally under all conditions — not because I am interested in a leader to hook knot. The fact of the matter (I also have a degree in engineering) is that based on physics, the strength (the breaking point) of anything varies with the rate at which the load is applied to it (impulse). Thus one knot that has high strength when the load is applied very slowly might have much less strength when the load is applied very suddenly (I.e. snapped suddenly as when a fish makes a sudden run very close to the boat, compared to the situation where the fish is pulling against many yards of line that stretches considerably and lowers the impulse). Testing knots with your little digital hand scale is testing what happens in the latter case. I doubt that your little hand scale could accurately record the breaking strength of a knot under the former case. In a professional materials testing laboratory(like I once spent some time working in), very sophisticated instruments that record the forces and stretch over tiny increments of time are used to determine strengths of materials. Your hand scale can’t do that. In the past, DuPont used to test lines with such a laboratory for it’s Stren products.

Also, any knot’s strength, is likely to be very highly influenced by a number of other factors, primarily the sizes of the two lines in tests of line to leader knots. Other factors would include the type of materials (nylon mono versus fluoro, or copolymer).

I mention all of this not as criticism of your knot tests. Instead it is just given to help fishermen understand that they can’t strictly rely on such tests if their fishing involves conditions different from those of the test, like line sizes/types etc. I applaud your testing because it gives anglers more information, but the information is not universally accurate. I urge you and others to do more testing of knots under a greater variety of conditions. Furthermore, I suggest that knot-to-knot competition (tying two knots in the same line, and then the leader to each end) might be the only way to realistically compare knot strengths outside of a materials testing laboratory. Individual anglers can even do this themselves to compare how knots work for their various lines/leaders/conditions.

Hope this helps,

Mark Ward
Member

Luke,

Would you be willing to give it a try?

Mark Ward
Member

Try as I may, I’m unable to get the FG knot hold when connecting Power Pro 20lb braid to And 25lb fluorocarbon.
Have you been able to successfully tie the FG knot with Ande fluorocarbon?

weswolf
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weswolf

yes the 20# is too thick to properly “dig in” however you need to stretch the line a little harder? dont be too afraid to break it! you have to pull hard to make this knot work efficiently.

John McKroid
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Thanks to Salt Strong and the Simond Brothers, I am now using the FG knot on a regular basis. I would like to see the six turn Yucutan knot (double line) included in the test.

Bob Hartwein
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Bob Hartwein

I use to use a Double Uni however since I converted to the FG, Ive had no “Unexplained Breakaways”! Losing the fish to a l
“Line Problem” has narrowed to cut Leader, not my knot! Go FG!

Bill Gleeson
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Bill Gleeson

I tie a bead on the end of the main line so my teeth can hold it without jaw cramp. I clamp a hemostat on the fluorocarbon so it does not get loose and tug the fluorocarbon straight after each wrap. This works for 8 LB braid and 8 LB fluorocarbon.

Malek Gallichio
Member

Will the FG knot work for a mono to leader connection? Thanks!

Ak Buccas
Member

Will the fg knot work for a braid to braid leader connection? Here on the East Coast of South Africa, we have to cast our lures more than 100m for some species. Braid leaders reduce drag and also protects the main braid line while casting.

lev wlodyka
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lev wlodyka

i have a better knot than any of these and would only reveal knot if i am given credit for its creation and some sort of compensation

Reed
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Reed

Thanks for the great video. I was searching for why my line kept breaking and thanks to your comments I realized my 8 lb fluoro was breaking because it’s so much weaker than the 20lb braid I had on my spinning rod. My next question is will this knot be OK under the pressure of setting a skirted jig hook with say 20 lb braid and 20 lb fluoro? I lost one with 30 lb braid and 12 lb fluro, but that was probably due to the difference in lb test again. Any thoughts? Appreciate the help.

Travis Wetzel
Member

Ive always gone with the crazy Alberto knot which I really like. The FG knot is better for strength, any issues with it going out the eyes of a light action rod? Quick question on using topwaters with flouro. Ive heard is not good to use flouro with tops because it sinks. Ive heard its best to use mono with tops because it stays on the surface allowing the lure to move correctly. Just wondering because I love flouro, but I use mono on my tops for this reason. Thanks for all the hard work you guys do and the information on here is great. Keep Pluggin!

Adam
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Adam

I liked the Slim Beauty. I liked the FG/Sebille. But I dont like how the tag end of the Flouro is just dangling there.
I found the Red Phillips knot and modified it.
Mine is complicated but whatever.
I tie a bimini twist on the braid mainline.
I feed the doubled mainline through the single overrhand knot.
Tighen the overhand knot down. I fold the leader line back on itself following the Red Phillips.
I use the double mainline to do the wraps but I use the Slim Beauty way instead of the Red Phillips way.
Pull it tight and you are now left with a length of doubled loop mainline.
Now I do a 3 or 4 wrap unit over the mainline and cut.
I have no idea its strength but I havent broken it off yet LOL.

Adam
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Adam

Cool, I look forward to the doubled line tests. The Slim Beauty I learned how to tie used a doubled main line. I just thought, Why not use a Bimini twist instead? Still the FG is pretty easy doing it the way you show. I just do a bunch of half hitches and uni’s to wrap over the leader tag end. Thanks for the videos.

David Doyle
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The FG knot works well with thin lines (braid at or under 30# and mono under 25#. When I used 40# braid and 80# mono, the knot pulled out three different times under shock strikes. Watched the video three more times and still the same result. Any suggestions?

Capt\'n Ron
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Capt\'n Ron

I live down here in FL Keys. Fish Backcountry and blue water. Snappers to wahoo with most all reels set up with braid/mono/fluoro. Last 10 yrs I have used the Yucatan knot . I’m using 8# thru 100# braid and all fluoro/mono up to 50#.I find it easy to tie with little chance of bad knot. Never tested the true breaking point BUT never had breakage at knot.Not to beat my own drum but really don’t have my knots break it is most the time it’s the snap or hook straighting out.One note is I keep my reel drags in great shape and always retie braid to fluoro/mono knot when worked hard .also keep fresh fluoro/mono spools out of the sun.Not that I have tried all the knots out there over the last 40yrs + but I have keep up with the new fad. The Yucatan works very well for me and my clients .The fg is a great knot but to meany steps to make bad knot on bouncing boat .just my 2cents on this topic.

Thomas Story
Member

Tried the FG knot a few times and after 50-100 casts and several fish, found it unraveled. Maybe I tied it wrong. Tying 10# braid to 20# fluorocarbon.

Joseph Simonds
Admin

Hey Thomas, did you watch this “#1 Mistake When Tying The FG Knot” – This is the same mistake that I did the first few times: https://www.saltstrong.com/articles/fg-knot-mistake/

Tom Caldwell
Member

Luke I like the fg not for its clean look but I have a problem with it failing over time. I fish freshwater and attach 12 to 15 Fluor to 20 – 50# braid. Knot seems perfect at this point. It may last for several hundred casts and even a few fish (on the days I actually catch a bass or two) then for no reason will just fail. My suspicion is that repeatedly bringing the knot back through the guides actually works to loosen the knot the same as pushing backwards on “Chinese handcuffs”. Anybody else have this issue. I have watched video over and over and know to pull the knot tight. I must be missing something. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Galen Danis
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Galen Danis

Can the FG knot replace the nail knot connecting leader to flyline?

And what does FG stand for?

Mark
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Mark

I have tied many knots in my time. The modified Allbright has been my go – to knot. Similar in concept.
I have followed directions to the T (obviously Knot).
Allbright has a 180 loop.
The leader always pulls through the wonderful looking “Chinese Handcuff” twist. More times that I care to admit.
What am I doing wrong ??
I just got my new Kistler rod and the tip guide is no more than 3/16″ – tight.
I am looking forward to minimizing the diameter of my tip line/leader knot.
Please advise

Steve Hendrick
Member

The first few times I tried the FG it was not a nice smooth knot. I realized I had to much tension on the braid and it looked like I had a ball of flouro. Once I relaxed the braid a bit the loops laid nice and flat and had a perfect knot. Thanx for introducing me to the FG. I think I have it down!

Charles
Member

Has anybody ever tried the AG chain knot to tie mono to a swivel or speed jig. Its a big knot and time consuming to tie but I would like to see how it stacks up against the Palomar knot.

Charles
Member

I’ve tried them all. The very best braid to mono or fluorocarbon knot is the FG knot. It’s sleeker, stronger and far less complicated to tie. The way I used to tie it was very difficult UNTIL I saw your how to video on how you tie it. That was an enormous help. Thank you, Joe and Luke for your amazingly helpful videos, but if I add a small variation to the already indestructible FG knot do I get to rename it and call it my own?

Tom Reeve
Member

In San Diego I have begun to use a John Collins or Fisherman’s knot for Fluoro to Braid

When carefully tied I have found it extremely strong

You may want to give it a test …. you will be pleasantly surprised . . . . even if only 5 wraps up and 5 wraps down for a small knot

Anthony
Member

use the PR knot for heavier lines when mono is over 80 lb , works fantastic for jigging

chuck
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chuck

Why cant I find best way to tie braided
.. to swivel on a leader

Rick L Aka The Fish-N-Fool
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Rick L Aka The Fish-N-Fool

The Fish-N-Fool knot is the strongest braid to a metal eye knot that there is period. Check out my Utube video on it.

Peter Jackson
Member

hmm does it really matter who came up with the knot …as im sure we as fishermen all have our own way of tying knots and , its just another persons idea we are using , im sure we all use each others idea,s on knots & tackle ,baits etc etc etc ,,,, so we are only helping each other ,,,, thats how i see it …….( only saying )

Brian Keating
Member

I bang bottom a lot for snapper and grouper . I was wondering if I could use this with bigger mono . I use 80-120lb braid and about the same in a leader .

David Syrop
Member

After watching this and a few other videos I switched from using an Albright and uni knot. This knot has amazing strength and after some practice was fairly easy to tie. Great knot and great video 

Jhun Balmeo
Member

Hello, can i use FG knot for trolling? If so, where i will put the swivel to prevent line twist? Is it, braid –> Flouro Carbon Leader (using FG Knot) —> Swivel —> Wire Trace—> snap? Thank you very much!

Fish-N-Fool
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Fish-N-Fool

If you are going to steal somebodies ideas it would be nice if you gave them credit for it. I invented this way of tying this knot many years ago while pike fishing for joining 80 lb. fluoro leaders to 65 lb braid. I also show how to tie this on You-tube but i don’t hold the line in my mouth and try to talk too. LOL

Ted
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Ted

Thanks for the great video.  I’ll give it a try in the morning. 

Cameron
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Cameron

I think the version of the Improved Albright in your video is not any version of an Albright. Albright knots always wrap around themselves and two lines of the leader. This one only wraps around two lines of the leader. The Improved Albright is like the regular Albright but has a lock tied at the top. The Modified Albright (Alberto), loops down and then loops back up. The better version of this ties a clinch knot at the end to prevent the braid from slipping through. An Improved or Modified Albright should yield a 97% of the line or better strength.Their may be a version of an Albright like this but I have never seen an Albright not finish its loops where it started.

SHANE
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SHANE

Luke. What is the best braided line to use?  I have used power pro and spiderwire. I use a 15lb test for surf fishing and fishing in the creeks. what is your opinion?  thank you 

Dave
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Dave

Nice article, thanks. I’ve been an FG convert ever since I was taught how to tie it. There is an even easier method of tying it that doesn’t require using one’s teeth: basically a small, tight loop of braid is made in the left hand, and the leader is held in the right hand and weaves around the braid under tension.Re: “the FG knot won handily with an average break strength of 20 to 23 lbs… extremely impressive given that the weak line in the connection was only rated at 10 lbs.” It’s obviously physically impossible for the main line to become stronger by adding a knot to it. What is in fact happening is that the marketed line strength is often completely unrelated to true line strength, e.g. I’ve seen test strength anywhere from 80% to 250% of the labelled strength. In future tests, it would be good to also test the strength of the braid and leader on their own to get a better idea of true line strength.

shane chaddock
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shane chaddock

Awesome video. I’ve been using swivels for years and now I can say good by to them. i cant wait to try the FG knot!!  thx for the great video

TB
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TB

The “FG” shown here is an awesome knot and something I’ve been using for years, although I consider the knot shown to be more of a Naples knot, which finishes with a single half hitch.A true FG is multiple half hitches, and it’s kinda overkill honestly. The above knot is more than sufficient for almost all applications. Hell, I even use it tying my fly line to backing.

boog@email.com
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boog@email.com

Try tying these knots when the wind is blowing and the boats rocking…..

Kevin Sweeney
Member

Have you tested the PR knot? will beat all the knots you tested  including the FG

TOMMY BUTLER
Guest

I tie a knot called a figure 8 I have never seen anyone tie it before except myself. I teach every one I can.. I have won over 100 offshore  nearshore tournaments. I got extra credit in capt school for it they had never seen it before. It is as small as your best knot and also the tag is nonexistant.

TOMMY BUTLER
Guest

alright I ford called a Tommy not

Capt. Jamie Allen
Guest

I have been using this knot for about 6 months. From 15 lb to 40 lb. It is hands down the best. Most often the heavier leader breaks before the knot. Plus it goes thru the guides easy.It is a little harder to tie than some knots , but well worth the time!!

MZmoosa
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MZmoosa

great knot, alot of guys here in South africa are starting to use this knot on their grinder setups for in edibles fishing. seen some big sharks and skates landed on this knot. 48-80lb braid with .80-1mm flouro/nylon leader.

Chuck Hartzman
Member

Thats an awesome knot, what’s the heaviest leader you’ve attached to braid?

kyle
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kyle

Great video Luke!  How did the surgeon knot line up?

sam root
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sam root

Good stuff!

anthony hoff
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anthony hoff

I tie the slim beauty knot but when i tie it i wrap the braid down the leader like in the video but then i wrap the braid agian going the opposite way (going back up the leader) and then go through the loop and pull tight 

tony cottrell
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tony cottrell

Have you guys tried a surgeon’s knot with doubled braid? I use it with 5 wraps and have never had a failure, and that’s a whole crap load of Tarpon caught in all those years of using it.

nic
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nic

That’s a really cool knot. I wonder if it would work attaching flyline to leader/tippet? Seems easier than the nail knot

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